The so-called mathematical miracle of the Quran

Some people claim there are mathematical miracles to the Quran in terms of number of times words appear to be the same.   This is such a weak argument. It was never used historically and is has several problems.

Just because you find some patterns in the book does not mean it had a divine author.  Can we find these same patterns in other books?  Yes!  There are such coincidences as written here about Moby Dick).  If anyone actually spent the time to count the words you would see it’s really a case of cherrypicking and stretching the data to fit the narrative.

Not just that, all these “miracles” depend on a very specific reading of the Quran which is the Hafs en Asem.  If you read the Warsh or any other variant these counts would be totally different!

Math by Jeremy Mikkola

If we look at any text that is sufficiently long, we can find things that add up.

I ran a word counter on Romeo and Juliet which is around 2900 lines and found some interesting and funny coincidences:

  • Time and Old 33 times
  • Lord and God 31 times
  • Eyes and Dear 27 times (like the phrase Qurata Ayun – Coolness of my eyes)
  • Word and Scene 27 times
  • World and Earth 20 times
  • Peace and Married 19 times
  • Faith and Blood 18 times
  • Grave and Rest 16 times
  • Pray and Slain 17 times
  • Marriage and Gentleman 11 times

I’m sure if I spent more time, I could find some more funny coincidences.  Not just word counting but looking at the n-th word and trying to attach meaning to it.  Or counting the even and odd instances.  The more time you spend, the more you will find.

 We can do this with any book with some sort of results.  Some people also claim the Bible has such “miracles” too in it.

The Quran is 6236 verses, which means there are far more possibilities for this to happen.  So it should not be surprising if we find this occurring sometimes.

When it comes to Arabic text, it’s more complicated.  Because a word can appear in many forms.  For example the arabic word for day yawm (يَوْم) can be written as alyawm (today) or ayyam (أَيَّامٍ ) days or in the dual form two days yawmayn (يَوْمَيْنِ).

Regarding the miracle claim that day appears 365 times in the Quran, lets discuss this.  First of all, there are 365.24 days in a year, but 365 is a useful approximation.  In the Islamic Calendar, it doesn’t match at all, its closer to 354.  Second of all, we will see how this 365 number is so inconsistently arrived at.

The question is, when we look for these patterns, are we applying the same consistent rules throughout the text?  Or do we pick and choose specific instances in order to “make the miracle work” ?

The actual occurrence of the general word yawm is 475 times. This includes singular, dual and plural cases. There are 27 plural (days), 3 that are dual form (two days) and singular occurrences occur 445 times with all forms. This doesn’t give anything useful for this claim so the apologist continues on. Now the trick here is to add up basic versions which occur 274 times and those prefixed as al-yawm (today) which occur 75 times but leave out suffix forms. You might notice that adding these two together doesn’t result in 365 but 349, that’s because they include suffixed forms of yawn that are in the accusative form (which is written with a suffixed alif). This occur 16 times and they add it in to give them what they want.  (Source: MobySac on Reddit)

There we go.  Pick and choose the ones we like to make the miracle work.  Seems like a lot of work to prove Allah right! Trust me, if I was an all knowing God, I am sure there is a better way I could have encoded the text with a checksum. I might even send two identical copies to two different parts of the world.  But no such thing ever happened.

Another problem with this claim is that we know that there are multiple readings of the Quran.  In this hadith in Bukhari, Umar hears Hisham reading the Quran differently than he remembers and gets angry and drags him to Muhammad to verify.  Muhammad then says that the way he was reading it is approved by Allah as well.

Umar said:

I heard Hisham reciting Surat Al-Furqan during the lifetime of Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) and I listened to his recitation and noticed that he recited in several different ways which Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) had not taught me. I was about to jump over him during his prayer, but I controlled my temper, and when he had completed his prayer, I put his upper garment around his neck and seized him by it and said, “Who taught you this Sura which I heard you reciting?” He replied, “Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) taught it to me.” I said, “You have told a lie, for Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) has taught it to me in a different way from yours.”  So I dragged him to Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) and said (to Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)), “I heard this person reciting Surat Al-Furqan in a way which you haven’t taught me!” On that Allah’s Apostle said, “Release him, (O `Umar!) Recite, O Hisham!” Then he recited in the same way as I heard him reciting. Then Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said, “It was revealed in this way,” and added, “Recite, O `Umar!” I recited it as he had taught me. Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) then said, “It was revealed in this way. This Qur’an has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite of it whichever (way) is easier for you (or read as much of it as may be easy for you).  (Bukhari 4992, Emphasis mine)

So already we have a big problem. We already have shown that there isn’t one exact text of the Quran.  Here are some different recitations:

  • Hafs bin Asem (the most common one)
  • Warsh
  • And others

In these recitations, different words are used sometimes, or different forms of the same word, and even sometimes the verse numbering and count is different.

As well, we know that after Muhammad died, all the other copies of the Quran were burnt and only Uthman’s was saved and became the official “Quran” that we read today.  We have to assume and trust that the companions didn’t mess this up.  And there are also hadith in Bukhari stating that some verses were lost.

Harun Yahya’s site Mathematical Miracles of the Quran  makes the following claim:

Apart from the miraculous characteristics of the Qur’an which we have looked into so far, it also contains what we can term “mathematical miracles.” There are many examples of this fascinating Qur’anic aspect. One example of this is the number of repetitions of certain words in the Qur’an. Some related words are surprisingly repeated the same number of times. Below is a list of such words and the number of repetitions in the Qur’an.

I decided to pick some of them and find out if these are actually true:

The statement of “seven heavens” is repeated seven times. “The creation of the heavens (khalq as-samawat)” is also repeated seven times

Okay lets take a look and see the 9 references to seven heavens in the Quran:

  1. sabaa samawat هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ لَكُم مَّا فِي الْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ اسْتَوَىٰ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ فَسَوَّاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ ۚ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
    It is He who created for you all of that which is on the earth. Then He directed Himself to the heaven, [His being above all creation], and made them seven heavens, and He is Knowing of all things. (2:29)
  2. sabaa samawat هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ لَكُم مَّا فِي الْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ اسْتَوَىٰ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ فَسَوَّاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ ۚ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
    The seven heavens and the earth and whatever … (17:44)
  3. sabaa samawat فَقَضَاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ فِي يَوْمَيْنِ وَأَوْحَىٰ فِي كُلِّ سَمَاءٍ أَمْرَهَا ۚ وَزَيَّنَّا السَّمَاءَ الدُّنْيَا بِمَصَابِيحَ وَحِفْظًا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ تَقْدِيرُ الْعَزِيزِ الْعَلِيمِ
    And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired … in each heaven its command. And We adorned … the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection … (41:12)
  4. sabaa samawat اللَّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ وَمِنَ الْأَرْضِ مِثْلَهُنَّ يَتَنَزَّلُ الْأَمْرُ بَيْنَهُنَّ لِتَعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ قَدْ أَحَاطَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عِلْمًا
    It is Allah who has created seven heavens and of the earth, the like of them. [His] command descends among them so you may know that Allah is over all things competent and that Allah has encompassed all things in knowledge. (65:12)
  5. sabaa samawat الَّذِي خَلَقَ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ طِبَاقًا ۖ مَّا تَرَىٰ فِي خَلْقِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ مِن تَفَاوُتٍ ۖ فَارْجِعِ الْبَصَرَ هَلْ تَرَىٰ مِن فُطُورٍ
    [And] who created seven heavens in layers. You do not see in the creation of the Most Merciful any inconsistency. So return [your] vision [to the sky]; do you see any breaks? (67:3)
  6. sabaa samawat أَلَمْ تَرَوْا كَيْفَ خَلَقَ اللَّهُ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ طِبَاقًا
    Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in layers (71:15)
  7. samawati assabaah قُلْ مَن رَّبُّ السَّمَاوَاتِ السَّبْعِ وَرَبُّ الْعَرْشِ الْعَظِيمِ
    Say, “Who is Lord of the seven heavens and Lord of the Great Throne?” (23:86)
  8. sabaa tariqan وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا فَوْقَكُمْ سَبْعَ طَرَائِقَ وَمَا كُنَّا عَنِ الْخَلْقِ غَافِلِينَ
    And We have created above you seven layered heavens, and never have We been of [Our] creation unaware (23:17)
  9. sabaa shidadan وَبَنَيْنَا فَوْقَكُمْ سَبْعًا شِدَادًا
    And constructed above you seven strong [heavens] (78:12)

Well. That’s 6 times actually, using the specific phrase! To make it 7, you have to allow 23:86 which has the words in reverse order

The words “paradise” and “hell” are each repeated 77 times

Somewhat true if we pick and choose which forms of the noun to use.  I used Quran Corpus search engine to help me with this as it can find all uses of a word in the original Arabic

Jahanam (hell): 77 times (proper noun)

Janat (heaven): 147 times

  • الْجَنَّتَيْنِ (Janatayn – dual form) occurs 8 times.
  • جَنَّاتِ (Janaat – plural form) occurs 69 times.

So in order to get 77, we have to add these two up.  Seems a bit… arbitrary?  If we wanted this to make the most sense, shouldn’t we look at the proper noun – janatin (جَنَّةٍ) ?  Well no, because it only comes 51 times.

So what we find here is that we have to yet again pick and choose in order to make this work.

Instances like this one:

وَسَارِعُوا إِلَىٰ مَغْفِرَةٍ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَجَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا السَّمَاوَاتُ وَالْأَرْضُ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ

And hasten to forgiveness from your Lord and a garden as wide as the heavens and earth, prepared for the righteous (Quran 3:133)

So in this case Allah is describing paradise, but since its using the singular, its not counted! There are 70 such examples where “janah” is not counted.  In order to make this work, we have to again cherrypick the instances we allow, by only picking “gardens” (plural) and not the singular forms.

“Sun” (shams) and “light” (nur) both appear 33 times in the Qur’an.

Sun: 33 times

Nur: 43 times as the noun nūr (نُور)

The words “man” and “woman” are also employed equally: 23 times.

Man: 29 times as the noun rajul (رَجُل)

Woman: 26 times as the noun im’ra-at (ٱمْرَأَت)

(Also appears in other forms describing female believers, idolators etc.: Imraatun, Ajuzun, Dhati, Hamlin, Mushrikatan, Muminatan but these are not described as part of the “miracle” as it would be more than “rajul” then).

What does imraat mean anyway?  It has various meanings – but in most cases its connected to another noun and refers to “wife of so and so.”  For example:

إِذْ قَالَتِ امْرَأَتُ عِمْرَانَ رَبِّ إِنِّي نَذَرْتُ لَكَ مَا فِي بَطْنِي مُحَرَّرًا فَتَقَبَّلْ مِنِّي ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ

[Mention, O Muhammad], when the wife of ‘Imran (Imraatu Imran) said, “My Lord, indeed I have pledged to You what is in my womb, consecrated [for Your service], so accept this from me. Indeed, You are the Hearing, the Knowing.”  (Quran 3:35)

So is Allah saying “a man is equal to a wife” here?  Shouldn’t it “man and woman” or “husband and wife?”.  Yet another example of cherrypicking to make this work.

Shall I go on?  There you have it.  This is the fallacy called “Begging the Question“..  You already assume there is a miracle, and then you go and make the facts fit your narrative.  This is not a fair or impartial.

The web site (Also interestingly a Turkish site, just like the above) states:

In the Quran the word “balance” (mizan) and all its derivatives are used 23 times. In the Quran, “transgression” (israf) means the decline of the balance and is being condemned. The word “transgression” and all of its derivatives are also used in the Quran 23 times

  • 16 times as the noun mīzān (مِيزَان)
  • twice as the form IV verbal noun is’rāf (إِسْرَاف)
  • 15 times as the form IV active participle mus’rif (مُسْرِف)

Now over here its close.  But you see how arbitrary things are picked and then they try to make patterns out of it? It’s so silly.

Devil and Angel again, lets take a look:


  • Singular (مَلَكًا) Malakan Around 9 times
  • Dual ( الْمَلَكَيْنِ) Malakayn Two Angels – 1 time
  • Plural (الْمَلَائِكَةُ) Malaikah Around 78 times

Devil: This one appears in many different forms with prepositions, sometimes referring to a single devil, or sometimes to “The devil” (Iblees).

  • شَيْطَانٍ – Literally Shaytan – proper noun – 
  • شَيَاطِينِهِمْ – shayāṭīnihim – Their devils
  • الشَّيْطَانِ – Ash-Shaytan – The Devil

“Devils” appears 18 times, “devil” 70 singular.  To make this work, we have to add up the sums of all the forms of shaytan and malaikah.   While it is interesting that it adds up, it really does seem like a coincidence here, with no real meaning.

Dunya (world): 74 times, Akhirah (hereafter): 133 times – no match

Also see Debunking the Odd/Even “Miracle”

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50 thoughts on “The so-called mathematical miracle of the Quran

  1. For a non-muslim who understand and fluently speak arabic, it’s easy to debunk this fabricated miracle.
    Syukron akhi.

  2. Another incompetent article for your incompetent blog …….you cant just write the translated word in a search and blindly just write down the number you get….even a novice knows that… ill prove your incompetence below but let me just say ive noticed that usually your mind processes things incompetently to mislead yourself and others but in this case its just incompetent research…. the only thing more shocking than the incompetence is the outright arrogance throughout the article and the shamelessness with which you posted it in public…Its easy for incompetent people to copy, paste and find short cuts to come to sensationalist conclusions……Let me list out the incompetence for you and i hope you atleast have the sincerity to not delete my comment

    1. glimpses of your incompetence and your inability to share competent links are seen in earlier comments

    2. there is a vast amount of research on the mathematical patterns in the Quran …. all of varying degrees of complexity ….you decided to deal with the easiest which is counting contrasting words…..i mean your article shows that not only were you lazy to do the actual research…you dont even know basic arabic as i will prove below

    3. i specifically asked you to deal with Dr. Shabir Allys work….bcos i know there are many incompetent sites including your own….what is the point of getting information from an incompetent site and then doing your own incompetent research to add to the incompetence

    4. i realised that since i was responsible for your stupid article which may now go on to mislead more of our gullible muslim youth i would have to deal with your incompetent mess….incompetent people always seem to have more time and means to spread their incompetence…. you gave out 4 examples to try to prove your arrogant claims….of which only 1 was mentioned by Dr. Shabbir Ally; SINGULAR FORMS OF MAN 24 times and SINGULAR FORMS OF WOMAN 24 times….so let me deal only with that especially since you used it to arrogantly slander islam …. this example alone is enough to sure you dont know what the hell you are doing

    5. the sad thing about incompetent people is the hard work of competent people which takes years gets discredited..and incompetent people also see to have more time to spew out their incompetence…..i had to actually sit down for hours to do the research of only the words MAN and WOMAN …. just by looking at your figures i could see the incompetence… You said woman only appears 12 times in all its forms but i found 24 singular forms for woman and that alone is enough to disprove you….im no arabic expert but i know you dont know arabic bcos you listed out ‘dhati’ and ‘hamlin’ as separate whilst in the Quran you would have found they are actually written together to mean a ‘pregnant woman’
    I dont know how you got the word MAN 29 times…….but you must have included MAN with all its derivatives like plural form…..remember arabic is not english and whilst in english man can be plural to include mankind in general or both male and female Shabir Ally specifically told you to only include the SINGULAR FORM of RAJUL …. its not his fault you dont know arabic grammar and how it works…..
    Below i have listed for you the places in the Quran for SIGULAR FORM OF MAN 24 times and SINGULAR FORM OF WOMAN 24 TIMES…

    6. As a bonus are you suprised you get death threats? ill just deal with the treason law (not just apostasy)…..we dont have an islamic country that implements the full islamic shariah including the political, economic, welfare, civil, criminal aspects of it….but some countries do have the criminal penal code….if you left islam and kept it to yourself then an islamic governement would not disturb you…but since you go out in public and deceive the youth with your incompetence in an islamic land you have 2 options….you could either repent and recant and be set free or you could leave that islamic land and spew your poison designed to mislead the youth elsewhere….

    i sincerely hope this will make you reflect and keep your incompetence to yourself instead of deceiving people on youtube and your blog….. do something more productive wth your life…..religion is not a joke to lots of people…they take it seriously

    1.) 27:23
    2.) 4:12
    3.) 33:50
    4.) 37:135
    5.) 4:128
    6.) 3:35
    7.8.) 2:178 ( appears 2 times maybe in variant singular forms)
    9.) 40:40
    10.) 16:97
    11.) 22:2
    12.) 24:2
    13.14.15.) 2:221 (appears 3 times maybe in variant singular forms)
    16.) 11:72
    17.) 26:171
    18.19.) 51:29 (appears 2 times maybe in variant singular forms)
    20.21.22.) 24:3 (appears 3 times maybe in variant singular forms)
    23.) 33:36
    24.) 33:50

    SINGULAR FORM OF MAN =24 times
    1.) 33:4
    2.3.4) 39:29 (appears 3 times)
    5.6.) 40:28 (appears 2 times)
    7.) 43:31
    8.) 6:9
    9.) 7:63
    10.) 10:2
    11.) 11:78
    12.) 17:47
    13.) 18:37
    14.) 25:8
    15.) 28:20
    16.) 34:7
    17.) 34:43
    18.) 7:69
    19.) 23:25
    20.) 36:20
    21.) 23:38
    22.) 2:282
    23.) 4:12
    24.) 4:176

    1. I do appreciate being told I’m wrong. But why are you insinuating that I deserve to be threatened or killed? Do you think the religion of truth needs violence to defend it? Does not the truth stand clear from falsehood?

      This is part of the disease of Islam and Muslims. Your religion can’t stand up on its own without violence. You have to bully people into silence.

      I’ll edit the article to make it stronger with more details now since you made some good points. Thank you

      1. I looked through you list of random word matches…… you genuinely think the list compares to mine?

        look a my list
        it gives you the percentages of land and see
        it uses precise contrasting words like dunya vs akhira and devils vs angels
        it gives you days (singular form yawm) 365 times and month (singular form shahr) 12 times
        dont these results resonate with you???

        i have shown you how i got 24 singular form of male and 24 singular form of female…
        you discussed evolution in the video where i first contacted you…so im sure you love science
        did you know that chimpanzees and apes too i think have 24 pairs of chromosomes?
        scientists wondered why humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes and why not 24 too….
        Now we know that the human chromosome 2 is the result of a telomere-to-telomere fusion of two chromosomes. This event did not occur in chimpanzees and apes, hence we have one less chromosome pair.
        To me technically its not wrong to think we too then have 24 chromosones and the fact i can grammatically find 24 results for man and 24 results for woman reminds me of this….. it just makes me appreciate God more

        Sure you will be nitpicky and say its all nonsense….. its just coincidence,,,we have only 23 chromosomes…but not everyone thinks like you…..whats the big deal if muslims share this with others….why do u have an issue with that? especially when your results seem to be full of mistakes….i mean i only spent hours and looked at the results of MAN and WOMAN bcos that resonated with me….People dont have time to go thru all your other results and find the mistakes in them…
        Besides muslims dont believe in the Quran just bcos we can interpret scientific or mathematical beauties into the Quran…. the Quran to us is not a mathematics book or a science book…. these are just signs we use to reflect over the creation and God etc…..

      2. If you don’t speak Chinese don’t pretend to be Chinese, and even if, you can’t just be Chinese with your round eyes!!

        There is more than 12000000 millions word in arabic , english has just 600000 .
        To show you the difference between them
        يعلم ما بالصدور
        يعلم mean “he knows” ما “what”
        Let’s take a look at the word “assudour” الصدور
        The literal translation is (chests/ breasts )
        In fact none of those two meanings is right??
        This is weird , from a non arabe perspective!
        The actual meaningmeaning is ” he knows what within themselves/ can be interpreted / what they hide from him/ what they hold within their soul . I guess you get the picture

        This virtuosity of choice give you a huge space to describe a phenomenon per example… And with the least of words.
        It’s a fascinating languages, oldest as history that you can’t just understand by knowing two word, or after reading some articles, even books!!
        People spent they whole life studying quran and arabic and you just compare that with Shakespear. I like Shakespeare thou, but you are way wrong…

        the word insa’ane, which mean “human”
        The “male” in arabic mean ” raju’l ”
        The plural form is ” rija’l ”
        The woman in arabic mean imra’a “”this word can’t be conjucated or made plural
        But The plural form is “nisa’a”
        And this is some basis arab children knows even before going to shcool
        Now to the funny part

        Did you know what’s the Quran answer To them “i mean the disbelievers”?

        We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?

        أَمْ يَقُولُونَ افْتَرَاهُ قُلْ فَأْتُواْ بِعَشْرِ سُوَرٍ مِّثْلِهِ مُفْتَرَيَاتٍ وَادْعُواْ مَنِ اسْتَطَعْتُم مِّن دُونِ اللّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ ﴾
        (18 words in arabic)

        17:88) Say: “If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another.
        “More than 25 words as you see, and yet , it’s just an interpretation as I showed you before”

        Her god challenged mankind’s , and even devils, to join together and bring something like the Quran!

        Is this not a clear and worth challenge for you?

        Again !: but this time it’s too much easier!?
        Bring just 10 chapters?

        The smallest chapter in Quran, is 10 words!!
        Do you believe that!
        There’s chapters with 14 , 15, 16, word,
        I think it’s an easy task for you.
        Bring just 10 chapter like Quran, and you will destroy islam!?

        Or they may say, “He forged it,” Say, “Bring ye then ten suras forged, like unto it, and call (to your aid) whomsoever ye can, other than Allah!- If ye speak the truth!

        Btw, it has been 1400 year since God is waiting?
        But no sign from anyone!!?? They just choose to disbelieve and to trust social medias

        Alif-Lam-Ra. A Book this, the verses whereof are guarded, and then detailed, from before the Wise, the Aware. (1) Saying: ye shall not worship ought except Allah. Verily I am unto you from Him a warner and a bearer of glad tidings. (2)

      3. No one should be threatened with physical violence for opinions if they are truly sincere understandings that do not threaten national security or can lead to others physical harm or death such as treason by giving away highly classified military secrets to an enemy the nation is at war with. I only went through the trouble to highlight that free speech is not without a few limits. Having said that you are clearly misguided with regards to mathematics in the Quran and this post of yours seems rather shallow. I hope you truly believe its true because thats far more respectable than if you are purposely being dishonest or misleading.

    2. The fact that you ended your last comment with an implied threat or acceptance of violence shows how weak your argument is and how violent your mind is. But nevertheless, here is your response.
      I edited the article to add more details. You asked where I got 29? I got it from here:
      Its actually 73 times. You can also see it here:رجل
      73 results again

      Now go ahead and cherrypick the ones you like to make it add up to 24. I dare you.

      1. just saw your comments…. Actually if you look in youtube someone else brought up the issue of violence in islamic countries to people who leave the faith…..i had intended to respond to him but never got around to….

        just so happened i didnt bother re reading what i wrote in my long original comment…maybe i should have left it as a spearate comment to him instead of getting you involved….anyways i didnt mean it to sound personal and i apologize….id edit that too if i could here…

        As i said the work you shared for free in your past life genuinely helped me…so my reasons for engaging with you are sncere….ill have a look now at your refutations

        1. again it was a comment made to me in the same comment thread where i brought up shabir allys work…… i just copied the comment i made on youtube in the evolution video here so i understand why here in the blog it seems like i wrote that right out of the blue……
          im new to this blog so wondering if i can edit comments i make here?

      2. you dare me to make it 24……lol….i already spent hours looking at the arabic of each word and sharing my findings
        luckily for me you shared your list and honestly if you cant play fair then this is going to be a never ending game….

        first looking at the 29 results you gave me i thought i was going to have to try explaining why some of them are plural in arabic ….
        Then i realised you could actually see that 5 of them were translated as MEN or TWO MEN in the translation ….so if you remove those 5 the results come to 24 i mean either you are just making me work extra hard in my limited time or you dont understand basic arabic and want me to do all the hard work explaining things so you can keep saying it was a mistake and skew the results

        also regarding imraatu imran…….you know very well that imraat can be taken to mean woman…..and you should know that in arabic there is already a specific word for wife; zawja …..infact there are 4 instances where i found the Quran using this word but i didnt use them since they specifically mean wives….2 azwajakum and 2 azwajahum and anyway they are plural
        i understand that when it comes with the word Imran you can translate it as wife of Imran….but again you have to be fair and understand just as a muslim would see the word imraat there and take it one way….you being a former muslim would take the translation and say it means wife…..

        Also i gave you my list for 24 singular form of WOMAN…..obviously i got more results but some didnt fit ….. but i noticed you still kept it as 26…. i looked at my notes and since you have 2 extra results im assuming those are either;nisa’ or banaat which are again plural…
        Again its easy for you to just use your software to find results….im the one who has to thouroughly spend time to look at all the words and keep correcting you

        its obvious you are looking for things to be as clear as day,….. you want everything to fit 100 percent ……you dont seem to accept arabic is not english and that there are different rules and for me and other muslims these are just signs to help me reflect…..i dont need to these things to be 100 percent accurate and even if you keep finding silly reasons to say they dont match…my faith doesnt depend on these things…

        Since you tried to address some other results Shabir Ally mentioned…let me be more specifc and tell you the precise forms i heard him say in the video….i had to rewatch the video and.looking at what you wrote obviously u didnt listen to him….. so i have to do double the work to be thorough

        DAY (SINGULAR FORRM YAWM) = 365 times

        SATAN (AL SHAYTAAN) = 68 times
        ANGEL (AL MALAAIKAH) 68 times

        DUNYA (this world) = 115 times
        AAKHIRAH (next world) = 115 times

        Again these are some of his results

        itll take me hours to do the research again only for you to reject it again so maybe if you share your links with your results IA it will be quicker for me to look through them

        1. Here is the list of 26 instances. There’s no nisa or banaat here. Check again:

          (2:282:61) wa-im’ra-atāni and two women فَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُونَا رَجُلَيْنِ فَرَجُلٌ وَامْرَأَتَانِ مِمَّنْ تَرْضَوْنَ
          (3:35:3) im’ra-atu (the) wife إِذْ قَالَتِ امْرَأَتُ عِمْرَانَ رَبِّ إِنِّي نَذَرْتُ لَكَ مَا فِي بَطْنِي
          (3:40:10) wa-im’ra-atī and my wife وَقَدْ بَلَغَنِيَ الْكِبَرُ وَامْرَأَتِي عَاقِرٌ
          (4:12:56) im’ra-atun a women وَإِنْ كَانَ رَجُلٌ يُورَثُ كَلَالَةً أَوِ امْرَأَةٌ وَلَهُ أَخٌ أَوْ أُخْتٌ فَلِكُلِّ وَاحِدٍ مِنْهُمَا السُّدُسُ
          (4:128:2) im’ra-atun a woman وَإِنِ امْرَأَةٌ خَافَتْ مِنْ بَعْلِهَا نُشُوزًا أَوْ إِعْرَاضًا فَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْهِمَا
          (7:83:4) im’ra-atahu his wife فَأَنْجَيْنَاهُ وَأَهْلَهُ إِلَّا امْرَأَتَهُ كَانَتْ مِنَ الْغَابِرِينَ
          (11:71:1) wa-im’ra-atuhu And his wife وَامْرَأَتُهُ قَائِمَةٌ فَضَحِكَتْ فَبَشَّرْنَاهَا بِإِسْحَاقَ
          (11:81:19) im’ra-ataka your wife وَلَا يَلْتَفِتْ مِنْكُمْ أَحَدٌ إِلَّا امْرَأَتَكَ إِنَّهُ مُصِيبُهَا مَا أَصَابَهُمْ
          (12:21:6) li-im’ra-atihi to his wife وَقَالَ الَّذِي اشْتَرَاهُ مِنْ مِصْرَ لِامْرَأَتِهِ أَكْرِمِي مَثْوَاهُ
          (12:30:5) im’ra-atu The wife of وَقَالَ نِسْوَةٌ فِي الْمَدِينَةِ امْرَأَتُ الْعَزِيزِ تُرَاوِدُ فَتَاهَا عَنْ نَفْسِهِ
          (12:51:18) im’ra-atu (the) wife قَالَتِ امْرَأَتُ الْعَزِيزِ الْآنَ حَصْحَصَ الْحَقُّ
          (15:60:2) im’ra-atahu his wife إِلَّا امْرَأَتَهُ قَدَّرْنَا إِنَّهَا لَمِنَ الْغَابِرِينَ
          (19:5:7) im’ra-atī my wife وَإِنِّي خِفْتُ الْمَوَالِيَ مِنْ وَرَائِي وَكَانَتِ امْرَأَتِي عَاقِرًا
          (19:8:8) im’ra-atī my wife قَالَ رَبِّ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لِي غُلَامٌ وَكَانَتِ امْرَأَتِي عَاقِرًا
          (27:23:3) im’ra-atan a woman إِنِّي وَجَدْتُ امْرَأَةً تَمْلِكُهُمْ وَأُوتِيَتْ مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ
          (27:57:4) im’ra-atahu his wife فَأَنْجَيْنَاهُ وَأَهْلَهُ إِلَّا امْرَأَتَهُ قَدَّرْنَاهَا مِنَ الْغَابِرِينَ
          (28:9:2) im’ra-atu (the) wife وَقَالَتِ امْرَأَتُ فِرْعَوْنَ قُرَّتُ عَيْنٍ لِي وَلَكَ
          (28:23:14) im’ra-atayni two women وَوَجَدَ مِنْ دُونِهِمُ امْرَأَتَيْنِ تَذُودَانِ
          (29:32:13) im’ra-atahu his wife لَنُنَجِّيَنَّهُ وَأَهْلَهُ إِلَّا امْرَأَتَهُ كَانَتْ مِنَ الْغَابِرِينَ
          (29:33:20) im’ra-ataka your wife إِنَّا مُنَجُّوكَ وَأَهْلَكَ إِلَّا امْرَأَتَكَ كَانَتْ مِنَ الْغَابِرِينَ
          (33:50:28) wa-im’ra-atan and a woman وَامْرَأَةً مُؤْمِنَةً إِنْ وَهَبَتْ نَفْسَهَا لِلنَّبِيِّ
          (51:29:2) im’ra-atuhu his wife فَأَقْبَلَتِ امْرَأَتُهُ فِي صَرَّةٍ فَصَكَّتْ وَجْهَهَا وَقَالَتْ عَجُوزٌ عَقِيمٌ
          (66:10:6) im’ra-ata (the) wife ضَرَبَ اللَّهُ مَثَلًا لِلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا امْرَأَتَ نُوحٍ
          (66:10:8) wa-im’ra-ata (and the) wife وَامْرَأَتَ لُوطٍ كَانَتَا تَحْتَ عَبْدَيْنِ مِنْ عِبَادِنَا صَالِحَيْنِ
          (66:11:6) im’ra-ata (the) wife وَضَرَبَ اللَّهُ مَثَلًا لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا امْرَأَتَ فِرْعَوْنَ
          (111:4:1) wa-im’ra-atuhu And his wife وَامْرَأَتُهُ حَمَّالَةَ الْحَطَبِ

          1. wow you found all the exact words with IMRAA’T with the software 🙂
            in your original article you said 12 times woman in all the various forms which is why i too looked for various forms such as ‘believing woman’ (mu’mina) etc….so my list is flawed and should be ignored

            Now you found exactly the word IMRAA’T (WOMAN) which corresponds with the exact word RAJUL (MAN)
            and the best part is of your 26 findings…2 of them are in DUAL FORMS OF WOMAN
            its pretty much a repeat of the mistake of including DUAL FORMS of MAN

            24 of your results are in SINGULAR FORM OF WOMAN
            (in 4;12 its written ‘a women’ but it is actually ‘a woman’ in arabic… doesnt matter how they translate it into english….you have to look at the arabic
            just like what i said about your 29 results for man)

            just remove the following 2 verses bcos its in DUAL FORMS OF WOMAN
            (2:282:61) wa-im’ra-atāni and two women فَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُونَا رَجُلَيْنِ فَرَجُلٌ وَامْرَأَتَانِ مِمَّنْ تَرْضَوْنَ
            (28:23:14) im’ra-atayni two women وَوَجَدَ مِنْ دُونِهِمُ امْرَأَتَيْنِ تَذُودَانِ

            Shabbir ally said 24 SINGULAR FORMS OF MAN AND 24 SINGULAR FORMS OF WOMAN
            so your results prove 24 SINGULAR FORMS OF WOMAN…you said we twist the findings but the fact is he always said SINGULAR FORMS
            and also for the other words like 365 days and 12 months i said in singular form

            you know what.. ………i saw the following 1 hour and 51 minute video long ago….and when you did your refutation i realised the need to see it again…so i watched the full thing again …… should do your due deligence in research before you publish anything about it so please atleast do the justice of atleast waching the following video…after all its obvious we have both spent alot of time on this so why not spend a little more time doing justice bcos it is misleading to claim you have looked into the mathematical miracles in the Quran by just dealing with contrasting words bcos that is just the tip of the ice berg

            Dont worry its not only to do with contrasting words and if you are fed up of contrasting words then start watching from 25 MINUTES of the video…
            it may start off random to you but keep watching till atleast 1 HOUR 17 MINUTES
            if you want to go on to watch the Q&A thats upto you

            Remember dont go to other unreliable sources

            you brought up the 7 Qiraat including warsh ….you know the different ways of reciting the Quran and the different numbering systems (there are no missing verses but just a different numbering system)………Shabbir Ally also addresses that too in the video explaining how we are using the standard numbering system which is obviously the commonest and goes back to the 2nd and 3rd century of islam from scholars such as Hafs from Asim

          2. whilst watching the video remember the difficulty it took us to try to find these words wth the computer….. the reason these numerical wonders were never used historically for the last 1400 years is bcos no one had any clue they existed….do u still really believe Muhammad pbuh thought of all this and wrote the Quran himself
            Revisit the life and achievements of the prophet…..u may not agree with everything he did or everything he said ….he was only a human after all…. but you really need to find a way to explain how these wonders exist in the Quran….the Quran is a book of SIGNS…..not mathematics…not science….and dont hold the Quran responsible for mistakes muslim scholars or muslims make in understanding it

    3. H, your last example for man (rajul) is 4:176, but this is plural isn’t it? It says rijalan wa nisaan (men and women).

      Also it’s been noted that some miracle claims like this one include suffixes and prefixes (like this one), while others exclude them. 365 days they are excluded, but in contrast 12 months includes bi and waw prefixes.

      With other common ones like akhira it includes verses where the word means something else entirely

      This overview page details the various inconsistent methods

      1. first of all id like to sincerely thank Abdullah Sameer for not blocking me…..most ex muslims would have done so by now…
        Disclaimer…..i am an amateur and dont even know arabic grammar…..yet it is easy to disprove wikiislams claims
        It is really disheartening that Abdullah Salam decided to go this route of contrasting words which requires detailed knowledge in arabic grammar……..
        please look at the links i provided which show numerical wonders which dont require any knowledge in arabic grammar….As i will prove below arabic grammar is extremely complex and its easy for Anti isamic sites to just confuse and mislead people as i will show…this is why i insist you actually see my links of someone qualified explaining these things instead of getting incompetent refutations online

        1.yes i admit my list is flawed 4:176 is plural… Abdullah Sammer shared the correct list
        his list has 29 so exclude (2:282:59) (5:23:2) (16:76:4) (18:32:4) (28:15:10) bcos they are either dual or plural in arabic
        you will note that (7:155:5) says men so it is translated as plural in english but if you actually click the translation corpus Quran will tell you it is not plural in arabic….
        Like i keep mentioning just because something is translated as plural in english does not mean it is plural in the arabic…Wiki islam is mistaken
        so there are 24 singular form of man and 24 singular form of woman

        2.regarding 12 months i already mentioned in another comment that شَهْرًا is translated as month(s) or months bcos of the english grammar however it is singular in arabic bcos when you click the translation in corpus Quran it will tell you the word is not plural in arabic….again Wikileaks is mistaken
        i had to do some searching on the internet and i found the list of the 365 days from an ANTI ISLAM site so its not biased
        you can clearly see that the prefixes bi and waw are counted in 365 days also just like in 12 months….. and they attack us for other reasons which are dealt with in my other comments….again proving that Wikiislam is just wrong

        3.if you look at the Abdullah Sameer list which i corrected for akhirah, u can clearly see i already excluded 17:7 29:20 38:7 28:70 53:25 and still came to 115… they are again wrong… If you go see the ones i excluded they have absolutely nothing to do with the comparison of dunya vs akhira….absolutely completely unrelated..

        (following is from wikipedia and not a scholar….but i think it is sufficient to give depth)
        Dunyā means the temporal world—and its earthly concerns and possessions—as opposed to the eternal spiritual realm, or the hereafter (ʾākhirah).[citation needed] Dunyā most literally means ‘closest’ or ‘lowest’. In the Qur’an, dunyā and ākhira represent oppositions in temporal, spatial and moral dimensions: now and later, below and above, evil and good, respectively
        ʾĀkhirah (Arabic: الآخرة‎‎) is an Islamic term referring to the afterlife.[1] It is repeatedly referenced in chapters of the Quran concerning the Last Judgment, an important part of Islamic eschatology.

        As you can see the Quran comparison of dunya vs akhrah is very compliacted……
        I am no arabic expert but as you can see when we compare dunya vs akhira as just ‘this life’ and ‘after life’ it is not the accurate comparison……it is just a simplied way of saying it to the public…you must understand that in arabic the meaning goes far deeper…..and the english translation is just an interpretation of what is said…..the Quran is only the Quran in arabic
        so if you look at Akhira….it includes not just the hereafter but the last day of judgement as well when we will all be resurrected in the islamic belief
        (the day of judement is considered around 50,000 years…..itll sound absurd to you maybe but im just saying this so you dont think its a literal day
        Dunya too is complex and deals not just with this life but this world and so according to my amateur opinion in the 2 verses they highlighted the dunya gain deals with this world
        67:5 is ‘samaa ad dunya’ and samaa is do with sky/ space so again this world (if you see the translation it says heaven but again thats the problem is with the english… means heaven as in sky not paradise….arabic word for paradise is janna)
        8:42 is ‘biludwatid dunya’ and biludwa is to do with a valley so again this world

        Again these things are too complex for me as well……but if anything the takeaway message is you cant just use wiki islam as a refutation bcos as proven they are incompetent and we cant just take the translation to disprove the Quran……this is why we have scholars and volumes of books of research on this……
        Again Shabbir Ally is a phd holder….so hes not going to put his reputation on the line with shoddy work….which is why the source is important

        I hope you move on to see the numerical wonders that have nothing to do with grammar in the various links provided in the comment section….bcos honestly i dont know how much longer i will be able to refute this

  3. here are egs of matching number of times contrasting words appear throughoout the Quran

    Dunia (one name for life) 115 times
    Aakhirat (one name for the life after this world) 115 times

    Month 12 times,
    Day 365 times

    Sea 32 times,
    Land 13 times
    Sea + land = 32+13= 45
    Sea = 32/45*100q.=71.11111111%
    Land = 13/45*100 = 28.88888889%
    Sea + land = 100.00%
    Modern science has only recently proven that the water covers 71.111% of the earth, while the land covers 28.889%.

    SATAN (SINGULAR FORM) 68 times
    ANGEL (SIGULAR FORM) 68 times

    more links on other type of mathematical miracles in the Quran
    write youtube.c.o.m before the following links

    1. The Islamic hijri calender too has 12 months if I am not wrong..and the hijri calender was used during the time of the prophet!! So it’s not a miracle at all!!

      The sea land ratio is wrong too..

      Sea is a part of the water ratio..the water to land ratio is 71:29… 96.5 % is saline water contained in the ocean

  4. yes all these results are in the hafs version of the Quran….the warsh is available i think in north africa…..but not sure if its been studied for its own numerical beauties….i discussed the verse count with you in your youtube evolution video

    Anyways i noticed u rejected one of the ‘seven heavens’ bcos the words are in reverse order 🙂 not sure thats a big deal ….anyways sometimes when translating things from arabic to english its not unusual to reverse the position of the words in english bcos sometimes things just make more sense that way in english…… like i keep saying english and arabic are very different languages

    Anyways its obvious you are going to nit pick every single thing …… you can type in your software and get all the results….the grammar will probably be lost on you….and unfortunately my weekend is over so im not going to have hours pouring through why some of your results are not showing (you went from 12 times WOMAN to 26 times WOMAN) and at other times having to filter through the extra times where the grammar doesnt fit…. since you are in Canada and seem genuinely concerned maybe its best you contact or visit Dr Shabbir Ally from who i got the numbers

  5. Since you gave your links to dunya and akhira i decided it wouldnt take that long to recheck…..
    i mean they are words after all how badly can you screw that up

    It turns out i am correct in the contrast of
    DUNYA (this world) = 115 times
    AAKHIRAH (next world) = 115 times

    u screwed that up also due to 2 reasons didnt even check dunya correctly with your other software…….check this for 115 results for dunyaدُّنْيَا

    2.your arabic seems poor…..considering your other basic mistakes i cant blame you for not knowing that sometimes the same arabic words have different meanings according to the context…so the reason you got 133 results was bcos u included the word when it referred to People (such as later peoples) or to even God Himself (one of His attributes is the Last)…..Remember i specifically said 115 times when contrasted with dunya……i personally think that makes the fact they match all the more impressive
    Since your link has the arabic sentences also i just read them and since i understand Quranic arabic to a certain level i decided to give you the 18 times where it doesnt fit…
    so then again we have akhirah 115 times……again i hope u dont nitpick and say it says 133 so im wrong bcos that is just crazy and will show you dont know basic arabic

    Before i give you the list let me just say 2 things your original article you said the following:
    Now, I don’t know about you. But I would be pretty angry. How did they miscount this so badly? Do they just assume people are too stupid to actually check this?

    And then you went on to use your incompetent findings to justify asking and insinuatng that islam says woman are worth half that of men
    Then i spent hours sorting that claim out so you cant blame me for getting angry…however i do apologize if i went too far

    2.Also looking at your thoughts and ways of interpreting islam etc i see deep flaws and lack of the fundamentals …you always seem to take the negative interpretation…. it seemed to me you had a rigid fixed view of islam with impossible expectations of what it should be…and when things in islam didnt match your moral view or your expectation of what you thought islam was…it broke your faith…. you felt the scholars you heard deliberately lied to you about things they made mistakes in……like as if its all a conspiracy to convert people
    offcourse these are my opinions so i cant prove your process of thinking about islam is incompetent… could just throw tht claim back at me…
    instead i chose this route hoping you would atleast reflect more….
    i hope you realise that its not good to be too arrogant in your conclusions against islam and muslims….there are different ways of doing things and different ways of looking at the same incident….dont be so sure that your view on islam is the correct view……atleast now have an open mind to look at Shabir Allys other mathematical findings in the Quran that are far more impressive that just contrasting words….. Again all im saying is keep an open mind and im sorry if im doing it too harshly

    IN THIS LIST THE FOLLOWING DONT FIT……if any issues let me know

    1.) 5:114
    2.) 10:10
    3.) 17:7
    4.) 26:84
    5.) 28:70
    6.) 29:20
    7.) 37:78
    8.) 37:108
    9.) 37:119
    10.) 37:129
    11.) 38:7
    12.) 43:56
    13.) 53:25
    14.) 56:14
    15.) 56:40
    16.) 56:49
    17.) 57:3
    18.) 79:25

  6. to get 365 again we use only the pure and singular forms for the word يوم : without suffixes so only
    يوم (Day) اليوم (The Day) يوما (Day)
    when we search ‘Month’ شهر (shahr) in its pure and singular form in the Glorious Quran, we also find the number of its occurrences to be 12
    i got it from
    Shabir ally explains it here

    1. when i say شهر (shahr) that includes الشهر (al shahr) also obviously bcos both are singular
      but not اشهر (ashar) bcos thats plural

      MONTH (SINGULAR FORM; SHAHR) = 12 times in Quran (we have 12 months in a year)
      2 MONTHS (DUAL FORM; SHAHRYN) = 30 times in Quran (we have some months with 30 days)

      both from shabbir ally also..others he mentioned other contrasting words in the Quran
      HOT = 4 times
      COLD = 4 times

      JESUS = 25 times
      ADAM = 25 times
      Verily, the likeness of ‘Isa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: “Be!” – and he was [[ Surah 3 verse 59 ]]

      Here is another stunning Numerical Miracle, from the 10s below, for you:

      The Glorious Quran has 114 Chapters. The sum of those Chapters is 6555 (1+2+…+114 = 6555). There are also 6236 Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran. Now, IF YOU ADD EACH CHAPTER # with the number of its Verses, then you get a list of numbers. So 1 (first Chapter) + 7 (# of its Verses) = 8. Do this for all Chapters.

      1- The sum of the odd numbers from the list = 6555.
      2- The sum of the even numbers from the list = 6236.

        1. regarding yawm…if you include all the suffixes and plurals then as you mentioned you get 475
          eg with suffix yawmaizin (that day) which are therefore 2 words in english

          the best part is 475 turns out to be a product of 19 (19 times 25)
          Again both 19 and 25 have their own significance if you look into Shabbir Allys analysis of all these numerical wonders
          (the video 2;57 minute video above deals with your point about the muslim lunar calendar)

          1. incase you think im cherry picking the relationship between the Qurans chapter numbers and its corresponding chapter verses….and say oh you are only using the relationship according to odd and even homogenous numbers vs non homogenous numbers bcos that is the only system that works and other ways have failed

            here is a free book
            it comprises a series of mathematical analysis investigating whether the Noble Quran has a specific numerical order in terms of both the order of chapters and the number of verses. It is the first volume of the series of 4 books covering the studies in this respect. The following section titles are contained in this current book:
            1.*Odd and Even Numbers
            2.*Surahs of which the number of ayats are greater than sequence number
            3.*Surahs of which the number of ayats are smaller than sequence number
            4.*Prime Numbers
            5.*Sequence Numbers Set and Number of Ayats Set
            6.*The numbers which are divided by two and not divided by three
            7.*The numbers which are divided by three and not divided by two
            8.*The numbers which are neither divisible by two nor by three
            9.*The numbers which are divisible by two and three
            10.*The numbers which are divisible by two
            11.*The numbers which are divisible by three
            12.*Sum of the Prime Factors
            13.*Perfect Numbers
            14.*Abundant Numbers
            15.*Deficient Numbers

            here is a quote from Shabbir Ally regarding the numerical wonder of the Quran Chapter- Quran verses relationship in the Quran
            “You are speaking of a flawed method if you are asking about ‘pure probability’
            But offcourse there is ‘pure probability’, there is ‘statistical probability’ and also ‘subjective probability’..
            If we think of ‘subjective probability’ for the moment..that has alot to do with the nature of the subject that you are studying.. One says based on what i know of this subject, there is a very remote chance that it should come out like this and if it comes out like this then this is remarkable.
            So we are dealing with that situation here, knowing the history of the Quran, how it came to be written down, how the verse numbers eventually came to be put in, it is remarkable that the verse numbers generate this kind of result”.

      1. again to show you the consistency in the methods for getting
        DAY (SINGULAR FORM) = 365 times in the Quran
        we count يوم (Day) اليوم (the Day) يوما (Day)
        MONTH (SINGULAR FORM) = 12 times in the Quran
        we count شَهْرُ (Month) الشَّهْرَ (the Month) شهرا (Month)

        even if in english they add ‘s’ thus translating it to plural to make it grammatically correct in english these are singular forms in arabic….bcos the rules in arabic are different… (same principle in rajul and imraat)
        If you dont believe me then click the translation in the corpus Quran and see for yourself$hr#(2:185:1)
        you will get 21 results of which only 12 results are singular
        شَهْرُ (month) N – nominative masculine noun
        الشَّهْرَ (the month) N – accusative masculine noun
        the only confusing finding is شَهْرًا is translated as month(s) or months depending on the english
        however when you click the translation it will tell you the word is
        N – accusative masculine indefinite noun

        we dont count أَشْهُرٍ which is translated as months bcos it is plural in arabic
        and when you click the translation it will clearly tell you the word is plural
        N – genitive masculine plural indefinite noun

  7. only thing left for me to refute you is ANGEL and DEVIL
    ANGEL (AL MALAAIKAH) 68 times
    ANGEL (ALL DERIVATIVES) = 88 times
    SATAN (AL SHAYTAAN) = 68 times

    (68 times)


    (68 times)

    (88 times)$Tn#(2:36:2)

    You are now fully refuted but as a bonus since you mentioned the sun 33 times …… read this upto the end for an amazing conclusion with figures that will blow your mind
    for the full list from kaheel7

    1. You aren’t refuting anything, you are just arbitrarily picking and choosing which forms of the words to use in order to make your point without being consistent in those rules whatsoever. Sometimes you use all forms of the word (including plural and dual) sometimes you use only singular nouns, sometimes you include the definite form. This can be described as “sharpshooter fallacy”.

      1. yes but when contrasting 2 words i am consistent in the system for both

        the only time i used plural forms were for when contrasting angels and demons 68 each
        and i used all derivative forms for contrasting angels and demons 88 each
        if i had used singular form for angels to get 68 times and plural form for demons to get 68 then you could say it was inconsistency

        the other times when contrasting words i used the singular form…..such as the male 24 times and female 24 times…

        when showing you day 365 times and month 12 times i again used the same system for both

        if anything it adds to my cause that there are various numerical wonders throughout the Quran…and shows the variety and spectrum of the numerical patterns in the Quran…
        if the patterns were all only in one grammatical form such as singular then you could claim it was intentionally put there by a man/ men or ask why would God restrict the numerical wonders to only one form……

        The sharpshooter fallacy is characterized by a lack of a specific hypothesis prior to the gathering of data…..obviously in the case of the Quran they dont know what patterns to look for so they cant formulate a hypothesis beforehand… need to read the comment where i wrote of subjective probability

        Also you cant dismiss it as interpretation as people do with scientific claims…. bcos these are based on mathematics and existing rules of arabic grammar…
        i shared links to mathematical patterns in the Quran that have to do with arabic words and letters and not grammar rules as well…. so reflect over the signs of God

        (2:118) Those who do not know say, “Why does Allah not speak to us or there come to us a sign?” Thus spoke those before them like their words. Their hearts resemble each other. We have shown clearly the signs to a people who are certain [in faith].

        1. the very fact numerous meaningful patterns are even there are remarkable……
          i mean just look at the random list you found in a shakespeare book…..not a single one even contrasts…

          your list infact can be classified as sharpshooter fallacy and can be put down to coincidence bcos their presence has no real significance

          1. ok fine i relooked at the results of angels and satan and you could say i compared
            angels (plural) with satan (singular) and that theres an issue with that…..
            fine i concede that finding and you can ignore the 68 times
            if you are familiar with the Quran very rarely does God deal with individual angels and having the ingredient of faith makes one overlook that…..but i honestly think its nitpicking…..

            if you want take only the 88 times where all derivatives of both angels and satans are used….
            thats still impressive if you look at the overall grand scheme of things

  8. Thanks for this wonderful post Abdullah Sameer. And do not be put off with idiots like H, They just cannot bear people, especially ex Muslims, exposing Islam for what it really is.

    You are right, they resort to lame threats because they have a problem with ANYONE criticising Islam.

    Islam is flawed. Hugely. And we really need people like you to educate the world about this.

    Thank you again, and keep up the excellent work.

  9. Yes, the Sun is mentioned 33 times while light is mentioned 43 times. But the word Sun is mentioned in the Quran only in their very simplest from too. And this is not so for the word Light at all ! Anyone who know basic arabic can clearly see this ! Only by counting the word light in their simplest form will we count exactly 33 word light, just like there are exactly 33 simple from of the word Sun in the Quran too !
    So Mr Abdullah Sameer, are you sure you know anything about Arabic alphabet at all ?

  10. So I got into this blog ….just casually….and after reading some of his claims I was quite disheartened………..but still I kept on my strong belief on Quran…and dared to scroll down to see any responses…….first of all I am not an Arabic speaker since I am an Indian…….but after scrolling down I finally found……H……..I really dnt who are you brother …but u just stood me again….I will definitely pray for you everyday….I personally want to meet you now….my name is habib….and after reading all these things i have an urge to learn arabic….very very deeply…even if I have to spent years on it….it’s the miracles that solidify our belief….now I am gonna learn arabic myself and start exploring the unexplored……..I knew that someone is definitely going to debunk his claims……and yes u did………this Abdullah…dnt know who he is…..definitely he might be an atheist…… many people just have so many blogs attacking islam…..I dnt know about Abdullah…..but u Mr H ….u r actually like an angel……thank u so so so much….people like u who refute false claim against islam are real muslims….in my opinion……PS reply…..and pls Abdullah god bless u too……people like have gone through ages since last 1400 yrs….and believe me islam is here and will be even after akhira……..pull all ur brains on ur researches….even I will also help u……….but remember one learned believer will always spoil ur claims… Mr H did today…..may Allah increase him in knowledge.a and now u have one more competitor that’s me…….hope we meet in the future Mr Abdullah….dnt worry I will not bomb u…..we will have a nice debate….not only u…..bring Richard Dawkins and specially my favrt David woods too…..we all will have a debate in one room

  11. Hi brother Sameer,

    Nice to see that you are thinking deeply about the Quran though to refute it’s miracle claimed by certain persons. But to my understanding nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone if that doesn’t satisfy your rational. I don’t think that makes a person falls out of the fold of Islam. From your comment, I found you a rational person which should be enough to turn you to the truth..

    You pointed few points which could be right or wrong (a proper Arabic study would be required) but I agree with you that sometimes people stretch too much to fall certain facts into a miracle. Though there are also numerous other facts inside Quran which are far more convincing if considered scientifically but I am restraining myself from quoting those as I strongly believe you already gone through those.

    However, the point I wanted to make is, Quran never came to prove certain miracles so that people can quote those or invite people to Islam due to these miracles rather the primary purpose of Quran was/is and will be to guide people towards the truth. When people allows their life to be guided by this book, certain treasures might come on the way to ascertain his/her faith if he/she really thinks deeply as Quran suggest. So, thinking is necessary component for every human being as per Quran (you can easily verify those verses where we are told to think or ponder). Don’t you think this itself a major exception to other religious books ? Anyway, I am leaving you to your thoughts..

    Last but not the least, my apology on behalf of my fellow Muslim brothers who might have offended you. I really think you should not judge Islam by Muslims nor judge Quran by Miracles claimed by humans.

  12. As there is no option to edit my comment so I am here again to re-phrase some of my wording which I think could be misunderstood easily for brevity and my in-competencies.

    “I really think you should not judge Islam by Muslims nor judge Quran by Miracles claimed by humans.” – I wrote in my first comment.

    Well, I meant by this statement that if you want to really make a impartial statement about Islam or Quran, you should ponder over the Quran itself and judge yourself if it’s speaking the truth or not rather following the followers who might following it wrongly. Focusing on the miracles of Quran or refute those, one might completely miss the point that the purpose of this book was to guide human kind..

    Hopefully I haven’t given birth to any debate. That is not my intention.. If somehow my words offended anyone, I humbly apologize for that.

    May the Creator of everything guide the curious hearts to the truth…

  13. Abdullah sameer.

    U quoted in ur second sentence in which “u never bothered to such a claim (numerical miracle of the quran) because its sucha weak argument”

    Yet, u came up with a crazy long explanation as a counter argument, which shows that deep inside, eventho ure in denial, u did bother.

    From a psychological stance, u have revealed ur two faced nature as early as ur second sentence. N two faced people are nothing more than liars, n liars produced nothing more than lies. Speaking of “cherrypicking”, thanks for giving us the bullet to shoot u with (not literally ofcourse. I need to use disclaimer cause these bunch of “educated” people will try to suggest that im giving abdullahsameer a death threat. So ironic of “educated” people)

    Dont u see abdullah, ure the one here doing the cherrypicking, with the limited knowledge of arabic language n Islam on the whole, n ur distorted view about Islam, which was guided by ur hatred, ure quoting out of unreputable sources, translating quranic words n verses w the help of just translating softwares and internet sites. Whatever u accused muslims of, uve been doing it urself. N i bring this cherrypicking as a case so that u can reflect on ur accusation. U didnt hate us abdullah, u hate a part of u that u think exists in us.

    From where im sitting at, i see u as no more than trying to measure the length of a ruler with a thread, the reason why im not here to argue linguistic with u, since im a malay n i admit that this is not the field im excellent at, and im not going into ur footstep to make a fool out of urself talking about things u dont know about, as if u were the master of the subject, for we already have brother H and a group of other concerned people to tell u, that ruler itself is a measurement tool, not something to be measured by. May Allah give them barakah for their efforts. Aameen.

    Brother. First of all, the holy book of quran nvr claimed divinity for its numerical miracles. That only came up when scholars started to make in depth research about the quran.

    This is the book who called for believers n reminded the disbelievers to come back to The Creator. For what the disbelievers will face in the hereafter, will make them wish that how good it is if they were just soil (for soil is the element that we’re created from, n just soil is free from judgement and the torture of hellfire). The biggest torture in the hereafter, is regret. Remember that brother. Come back to Islam before life reaches ur throat, for when that moment comes, theres no value for ur taubah.

    Allah wont come to us, we will come back to Him. Allah doesnt need us, we need Him. Allah wont be affected by our sins, we affect ourselves w our sins. N that is how Islam is not affected by ur words, not at the very least.

    Nobody needs to threaten u. Death will come to all of us, me and you included, threatened or not threatened. As a muslim, this is my obligation to remind u to come back to the right path where u came from.

    Muslims, we hold strong to the promise of Allah. He will hold this religion high above any other religions. Islam will prevail in the end. Its just normal for the religion of truth to be the subject of slanders from disbelievers. Its not something new. But Allah wont let this religion cease to exist, it just wont happen abdullahsameer, no matter how much u and anybody else of ur school of thought want it to happen, no matter how big ur hatred is towards Islam.
    U didnt hate us abdullah, u hate a part of u that u think exists in us.

  14. Firstly, I don’t think you’re a Muslim person now or previously.

    I have just come across the Maths miracle of the Quran through a Youtube video by skakvac;
    and other mathematical symmeteries. Such wonders are alluded to in the Quran like
    (quran 11:13) Or do they say, “He invented it?” Say, “Then produce ten chapters like it, invented, and call upon whomever you can, besides God, if you are truthful.”
    (17:88) Say, “If mankind and jinn came together to produce the like of this Quran, they could never produce the like of it, even if they backed up one another.”

    I’m just amazed at the mathematical wonders of the Quran and more I think would be discovered with the advent of technology

    I just want to point out the weak reasoning and comparison used in Sham’s article.
    1 The fact that something hadn’t been done historically does not point to it’s value. (para 1)
    2 That the mathematical symmetries found in the Quran points to its Divine origin is a ‘lame
    argument’ is posited by Sameer without elaborating on the extensive mathematical evidence discovered thus far. Sameer merely concluded that the whole thing is ‘lame’ without discussing on the myriad of evidence put forward by scholars and technicians of the Muslim stripe.
    3 The little examples given from Romeo and Juliet, which happens to be my favorite Shakespearean play, is, not only skimpy but also misleading. Eg. Is ‘pray’ and ‘slain’ mentioned 17 times each? Or altogether these words appear 17 times? And how do these concepts contrast?
    World and Earth, ok but Peace and Married?, Faith and Blood? , Grave and Rest?, Pray and Slain? Marriage and Gentleman?

    Alas Sameer concedes of sorts like this – “We can do this with any book with some sort of results.” Emphasis ‘some sort of results’!

  15. Would you imagine human life without Quran?
    Would you imagine human life without Mathematics?
    Would you imagine Quran without Arabic language?
    Would you imagine Mathematics without number?

  16. The best that quran could do is to resort to some schoolboy math. You can find these patterns in any book, including books written by children! Haha! If quran is supposedly a “mathematical miracle”, at least it should offer some solutions to the myriads of mathematical paradoxes out there. (Yes, I am a mathematician, and no quran is no “mathematical miracle”) I think if quran showed even a hint of Poincare, I’d convert on the spot! Hahaha! Instead it’s just some grade school/primary school math, with some dubious massaging of the meaning and spelling. Mind boggling that muslims believe that the ratio of sea and land is up to 10 decimal points! LOL! We know now that sea, water, land and air are all dynamic in that they change according to the weather, polar ice caps, sun intensity etc. You can’t even put a single decimal value to it! Quran actually thinks otherwise! Hahahaha!

  17. Although the bible contains numerical signs, no (reasonable) christian will claim that this is a proof that the bible is the word of God. Christians don’t need that.

  18. In Your Romeo and Juliet experiment you mention the following:

    Time and Old 33 times
    Lord and God 31 times
    Eyes and Dear 27 times (like the phrase Qurata Ayun – Coolness of my eyes)
    Word and Scene 27 times
    World and Earth 20 times
    Peace and Married 19 times
    Faith and Blood 18 times
    Grave and Rest 16 times
    Pray and Slain 17 times
    Marriage and Gentleman 11 times

    Only These words have a relationship between themselves and somewhat to the story in general (both Romeo and Juliet die)
    Grave and Rest 16 times

    These words basically mean the same thing and are not really relevant to the story.
    Lord and God 31 times
    World and Earth 20 times

    The rest of the words have little to no relation to themselves or the storybook itself and that’s the point.

    Whereas in the Quran

    JESUS = 25 times
    ADAM = 25 times
    Relevance – [similitude of the creation of Jesus is like that of Adam]

    Dunia 115 times
    Aakhirat 115 times
    Relevant to the whole scripture/religion, (living the dunya for the Aakhira)

    Angel (AL MALAAIKAH) 68 times
    Satan (AL SHAYTAAN) = 68 times
    Relevant to the whole scripture. Obedience vs Disobedience?

  19. Wow! Romeo and Juliet also seams of divine origin.

    I ran a word counter on Romeo and Juliet which is around 2900 lines and found some interesting and funny coincidences:

    Time and Old 33 times
    Lord and God 31 times
    Eyes and Dear 27 times (like the phrase Qurata Ayun – Coolness of my eyes)
    Word and Scene 27 times
    World and Earth 20 times
    Peace and Married 19 times
    Faith and Blood 18 times
    Grave and Rest 16 times
    Pray and Slain 17 times
    Marriage and Gentleman 11 times

  20. Make sure you put ex-Muslim Abdullah Sameer next time for us to know who you are anyways u did not debunk anything and if people wanted to believe that it is a miracle then it’s up to them and who ever said we need math to prove the Quran we have many miracles in the Quran already and you know what I personally think that you don’t even need a revelation to believe in god the revelation and messengers is just a confirmation of god that’s all and a guidance and you know who you and people like you are nothing other than the many verses in the Quran that Allah Swt speaks about that are munafiqun (hypocrites).

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