{"id":657,"date":"2021-08-02T15:39:27","date_gmt":"2021-08-02T19:39:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/abdullahsameer.com\/podcast\/?p=657"},"modified":"2021-08-02T15:39:29","modified_gmt":"2021-08-02T19:39:29","slug":"097-bad-things-in-the-bible-a-discussion-with-two-ex-christians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/097-bad-things-in-the-bible-a-discussion-with-two-ex-christians\/","title":{"rendered":"097 &#8211; Bad Things in the Bible &#8211; A Discussion with Two Ex-Christians"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I am discussing with Derek Lambert of <a href=\"https:\/\/studio.youtube.com\/channel\/UCWVCimOe67LOfyi9PjUeGgA\">\u00a0@MythVision Podcast<\/a> on YouTube and Dr. Josh Bowen of <a href=\"https:\/\/studio.youtube.com\/channel\/UCBQo27DbqeB-xG17-kekrdQ\">\u00a0@Digital Hammurabi<\/a>. Derek Lambert has an amazing YouTube channel with many high-profile interviews of academics discussing the Bible and history. Dr. Joshua graduated from Johns Hopkins University with a Ph.D. in Assyriology in 2016 and has authored many books.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> MythVision: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCWVCimOe67LOfyi9PjUeGgA\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCWVCimOe67LOfyi9PjUeGgA <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Digital Hammurabi: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCBQo27DbqeB-xG17-kekrdQ\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCBQo27DbqeB-xG17-kekrdQ<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>NEW! The Atheist Handbook to the Old Testament<br>Joshua Bowen (2021)<br>(<a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4jj2tcny\">https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4jj2tcny<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>YouTube version of this podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/EKDscqP-SHE\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/EKDscqP-SHE<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Timestamps for the podcast: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0:00 Introductions<br>1:52 Derek\u2019s religious background<br>6:53 Dr. Josh\u2019s academic and religious background<br>9:35 What does the phrase \u2018heavens and earth\u2019 mean as used in the Bible and Quran<br>12:52 Genesis 1 and the creation story.<br>18:35 Why do apologists try to reinterpret the religious text to make them fit the current scientific understanding of the universe?<br>20:01 Quranic verses that speak to the creation of heaven and the earth. Parallels between these stories and the creation stories in the Christian worldview.<br>23:24 How the Scientific method builds on previously known information from previous generations<br>27:30 The impact of reading religious text in a more literalistic way.<br>29:22 Dr. Josh\u2019s channel &#8211; Digital Hammurabi<br>30:44 The epic of Gilgamish (continued)<br>32:02 The problem of taking the religious text as infallible.<br>34:57 Responding to comment in the chat on whether the Bible contains any good things.<br>36:32 The problem of child sacrifices<br>46:43 How does the child sacrifice make sense &#8211; The atheist\u2019s handbook to the Old Testament by Dr. Josh<br>52:40 Channel announcements.<br>53:10 The problems of the God in the Old Testament &#8211; First Samuel 15<br>55:13 What are Nephilim?<br>59:34 Responding to comments from the chat<br>1:00:36 God\u2019s evolvement in some of the atrocities in the Bible.<br>1:08:55 Does the Bible endorse slavery or just describe the way of life in the old times?<br>1:15:34 God commanding people to commit atrocities.<br>1:17:18 Legalistic portions of the bible on slavery. Did chattel slavery exist in Israel?<br>1:22:18 Slavery in the New Testament. 1st Timothy 1:10. Ways for acquiring slaves<br>1:32:18 Treatment of slaves according to the Bible.<br>1:37:15 Super chats. Parallels between slavery in Islam and slavery in Christianity<br>1:40:33 Galatians 3:28<br>1:42:25 Exodus 21 &#8211; Rules for freeing debt slaves.<br>1:44:00 Differences between the rules on the treatment of slaves in Christianity and Islam.<br>1:48:34 The role of the church in the abolishment of slavery &#8211; Gregory Nyssa<br>And other religious leaders<br>1:50:41 What is humanism all about?<br>1:52:15 Why did Dr. Josh name his channel Digital Hammurabi<br>1:55:45 Abdullah\u2019s final remarks.<br>1:56:26 Derek\u2019s final remarks.<br>1:58:40 If Jesus absolved us of our sins, why is homosexuality forbidden?<br>2:01:28 Dr. Josh\u2019s final remarks<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_6436\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-657-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/097-Bad_things_in_Bible.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/097-Bad_things_in_Bible.mp3\">http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/097-Bad_things_in_Bible.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/097-Bad_things_in_Bible.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=657-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/097-Bad_things_in_Bible.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"097-Bad_things_in_Bible.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/list\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am discussing with Derek Lambert of \u00a0@MythVision Podcast on YouTube and Dr. Josh Bowen of \u00a0@Digital Hammurabi. 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