{"id":654,"date":"2021-07-28T03:48:37","date_gmt":"2021-07-28T07:48:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/abdullahsameer.com\/podcast\/?p=654"},"modified":"2021-07-28T03:49:32","modified_gmt":"2021-07-28T07:49:32","slug":"096-discussing-hatun-tash-stabbing-with-abdullah-gondal-and-apostate-aladdin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/096-discussing-hatun-tash-stabbing-with-abdullah-gondal-and-apostate-aladdin\/","title":{"rendered":"096 &#8211; Discussing Hatun Tash Stabbing with Abdullah Gondal and Apostate Aladdin"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In this podcast, Abdullah Gonadal, Apostate Aladdin and I discuss the recent knife attack at the speakers&#8217; corner in London. We also explore the Islamic texts and teachings and discuss how they may be a source of motivation for people who commit such violent acts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The YouTube version of this podcast:<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Bv37emLQuA8\"> https:\/\/youtu.be\/Bv37emLQuA8<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gondal&#8217;s FB:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100006615126777\"> https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100006615126777<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br>Apostate Aladdin&#8217;s channel: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCCUvpcW30kyMJGIgI4LtmkQ\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCCUvpcW30kyMJGIgI4LtmkQ<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Timestamps for the podcast:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0:00 Introductions<br>0:44 Who is Hattun Tash? A quick recap of her activism, and the incident at the speaker\u2019s corner.<br>3:34 Abdullah Sameer\u2019s response to a comment from the chat. Should All Muslims take the blame if the incident at the speakers\u2019 corner<br>6:03 The difference between believing in an ideology and practicing it every day.<br>7:36 Mohammad Hijab\u2019s video reacting to this incident.<br>9:47 Abdullah Sameer\u2019s response to Hijab claiming that this was just a \u201clone wolf\u201d and then plays the victim card and turning to blame the police and the system.<br>14:14 The undertones in Hijab\u2019s response video. Hadith on killing Al-Khawarij and Al-Mulhidun from Sahih Bukhari.<br>21:45 Apostate Aladin\u2019s take on the issue of killing non-Muslims and apostates. Scholars\u2019 opinions on the topic of apostasy and blasphemy &#8211; Reliance of the traveler.<br>26:34 What makes one an apostate according to the Reliance of the traveler?<br>29:19 How the blasphemy laws and rulings affected poets.<br>31:24 The singing slave girl and the murdered concubine &#8211; hadith by Sahih Al- Albani<br>36:03 How people in ultra-religious countries take such teachings and apply them in their everyday lives. The case of Salman Taseer.<br>39:59 What did the stabber achieve by perpetrating violence at speakers\u2019 corner?<br>43:46 The parallels between the knife attacker and some of the acts of the prophet and the teachings in Islam.<br>50:17 Adnan Rashid and Mansur\u2019s response to the incident<br>58:25 Schoolars\u2019 opinion on blasphemy and the killing of blasphemers.<br>Qadi Iyaad &#8211; Ash Shifaa<br>1:03:34 Ibn Taymiyyah on blasphemy and killing of blasphemers.<br>1:05:40 Channel announcements.<br>1:06:13 Ibn Taymiyyah on blasphemy and killing of blasphemers. (continued)<br>1:09:08 Jizya and blasphemy? Kill the Dhimmis<br>1:10:22 Is killing blasphemers Sunnah? Abdullah Ibn Sarh.<br>1:12:05 Abdullah Gondal\u2019s take on the main source of motivation for the vigilantes and extremists.<br>1:12:28 Aladdin\u2019s take on the Dawah guys giving two-faced answers and how they are fueling more discussions in Muslim communities.<br>1:13:46 Fatwa on vigilant violence<br>1:17:05 Abdullah Sameer\u2019s final remarks<br>1:19:27 Fatwa on the killing of the slave woman who was accused of blasphemy<br>1:22:46 Aladdin\u2019s final remarks.<br>1:24:38 Responding to comments from the chat.<br>1:26:03 A teaser of Gondal\u2019s project on neuroscience about Muhammad.:<br>1:29:42 Apostate Aladdin\u2019s channel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_6290\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-654-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/096_Hatun_Tash_Stabbing.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/096_Hatun_Tash_Stabbing.mp3\">http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/096_Hatun_Tash_Stabbing.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/096_Hatun_Tash_Stabbing.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=654-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/096_Hatun_Tash_Stabbing.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"096_Hatun_Tash_Stabbing.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/list\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this podcast, Abdullah Gonadal, Apostate Aladdin and I discuss the recent knife attack at the speakers&#8217; corner in London. 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