{"id":469,"date":"2021-06-13T18:40:19","date_gmt":"2021-06-13T22:40:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/abdullahsameer.com\/podcast\/?p=469"},"modified":"2021-07-04T16:34:57","modified_gmt":"2021-07-04T20:34:57","slug":"090-interview-with-former-convert-to-islam-debbie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/090-interview-with-former-convert-to-islam-debbie\/","title":{"rendered":"090 – Interview with Former Convert to Islam Debbie"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Debbie is an Ex-Muslim convert(Hizb ut Tahrir), Born Mennonite, Currently an Atheist. Free from patriarchy, Fighting to expose oppression.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Follow Debbie on Twitter: https:\/\/twitter.com\/Debruh1017<\/a>
Subscribe to Debbie’s YouTube: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCrgzcoNnlSzX2mExrS2Ucgg?sub_confirmation=1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The YouTube version of this conversation can be found here: https:\/\/youtu.be\/S47TFrbPzYs<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Here are the time stamps for this interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0:00 Introductions and the interesting link between Abdullah Sameer and Debbie.
3:23 How Deborah was encouraged by her now ex-husband to \u2018save\u2019 Abdullah\u2019s wife from her murtad husband.
6:54 Deborah\u2019s family background – her Mennonite upbringing
9:07 How Deborah met her ex-husband and how this led her deep into Islam.
13:28 Parallels between Deborah\u2019s experiences and Abdullah\u2019s wife\u2019s experiences when they married Muslim men.
15:44 How Hizb ut Tahrir and other Islamists are taking advantage of democratic freedoms while fighting to have those rights banned.
17:19 The reasons why Hizb ut Tahrir is against ISIS.
20:18 The way of strangers – by Graeme Wood. The fake Mahdi.
23:59 The main goals of Hizb ut Tahrir
25:00 Deborah\u2019s life as a wife of a high-ranking Hizb ut Tahrir member.
28:36 Channel announcements: Debbie\u2019s channel.
29:05 Normalizing leaving Islam. The hypocrisy of Islam and Muslims when they claim that there is no compulsion in religion while also attacking people who leave the religion.
30:11 Hizb ut Tahrir\u2019s position on slavery and Abdullah\u2019s \u2018little rant\u2019 about Hizb ut Tahrir
34:45 The importance of talking about political Islam and pushing back against it. Why is it Hizb ut Tahrir wants world domination?
37:45 Debbie\u2019s deradicalization process and why she sympathizes with people who joined ISIS and now want out.
40:16 How Islam perpetuates the US versus THEM mentality
42:55 The teaching about joining the caliphate once one is established
45:01 Spiritual abuse – using religion to control and abuse members of your family.
46:59 Debbie\u2019s experience of having her husband marry a second wife.
50:33 How Debbie lost friends because of her husband\u2019s polygamy
51:25 How prevalent is polygamy in the Canadian Muslim community? Debbie\u2019s friendship with the second wife. The emotional toll that polygamy had on Debbie.
59:55 The impact that polygamy had on the children
1:00:40 Debbie\u2019s advice to people who have family members who are jumping into the deep end of Islam.
1:01:20 Abdullah\u2019s experience as a Muslim in Canada.
1:07:22 Hizb ut Tahrir\u2019s teachings to not get involved with the secular government, not donating blood or body organs
1:09:46 Islamic counseling and how useless and unpractical it is.
1:12:24 How Debbie\u2019s marriage deteriorated and how she ended up divorcing her husband.
1:18:28 The importance of access to information and how the Muslim countries are blocking information critical of Islam.
1:24:14 The Quran challenge.
1:25:35 Responding to comments: Hizb ut Tahrir\u2019s view of Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries, Debbie\u2019s former religion is a cult.
1:32:40 Debbie\u2019s views on veganism.
1:34:50 Channel announcements: Debbie\u2019s channel and the type of content she is planning to produce
1:37:50 Keith Moore and his praises for Islam.
1:39:11 The Quranic spotlight blog and how it debunked the embryology miracle.
1:42:28 Debbie\u2019s final thoughts.
1:43:43 Channel announcements and Abdullah\u2019s final thoughts.<\/p>\n

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Debbie is an Ex-Muslim convert(Hizb ut Tahrir), Born Mennonite, Currently an Atheist. Free from patriarchy, Fighting to expose oppression. Follow Debbie on Twitter: https:\/\/twitter.com\/Debruh1017Subscribe to Debbie’s YouTube: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCrgzcoNnlSzX2mExrS2Ucgg?sub_confirmation=1 The YouTube […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":486,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-469","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcasts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/469","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=469"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/469\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":471,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/469\/revisions\/471"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/486"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=469"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=469"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=469"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}