{"id":178,"date":"2020-07-20T09:51:35","date_gmt":"2020-07-20T13:51:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/abdullahsameer.com\/podcast\/?p=178"},"modified":"2021-07-12T18:25:36","modified_gmt":"2021-07-12T22:25:36","slug":"038-discussing-islam-and-faith-with-ex-christian-lilith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/038-discussing-islam-and-faith-with-ex-christian-lilith\/","title":{"rendered":"038 &#8211; Discussing Islam and Faith with Ex-Christian Lilith"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I am going live with Lilith Liberated to discuss Islam and her story <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Phoenix_Lilith Youtube:\">Her Twitter<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCMk0nsHIIwCm3DFYBzIoSaw\">Her YouTube channel<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>YouTube version for this podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/JCKjAubdOUE\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/JCKjAubdOUE<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here are the timestamps for the podcast:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0:00 Introductions<br>0:35 Lilith&#8217;s religious background and how she became an atheist.<br>9:00 How would the concept of God be false given how common the stories are?<br>13:20 The history of God ( Karen Armstrong). Scanty evidence for Abraham, Adam, and other biblical figures (Finkelstein).<br>19:18 No consistent definition of God. The anthropomorphic images of God in the earlier portion of the bible &#8211; are they proof the bible was corrupted as claimed by Muslims?<br>23:00 How religions utilize storytelling as a powerful tool for their survival. People like Muhammad used storytelling to unite a lot of pagans and created a very large empire.<br>28:45 Arguments from semantics &#8211; Are miracles magic? Demons and holy ghosts. Revelations VS hearsay. How can we even test the veracity of the claims in those revelations?<br>35:00 The problem of Contradictions in the Quran. Can the Quran abrogate itself?<br>37:35 The branding problem in Islam &#8211; &#8220;Islam the religion of peace&#8221;. The differences between nominal Muslims and Islamists. Parallels between Islam movements and Christian movements in response to calls for reform.<br>45:00 The cognitive dissonance in Christians who are not able to mirror their criticisms of Islam onto their own religion. Judeo-Christian values? Do people have faith in Science? Differences between science and faith.<br>55:20 Quran miracle claim on the preservation of the body of Pharaoh. Science and skepticism debunking miracle claims.<br>59:06 The lack of original Christian texts from the early days (1st and 2nd century). Burning of Competing copies\/ variant readings of the Quran just after the death of Muhammad by Uthman.<br>1:04:42 Paul&#8217;s letter claiming that 500 men witnessed Jesus&#8217;s resurrection &#8211; Is it even true and accurate? Bart Ehrman&#8217;s explanation of high and low Christology.<br>1:09:49 Lilith&#8217;s social handles and projects.<br>1:10:30 What Lilith learned from reading a thousand nights in one night.<br>1:12:00 Lilith&#8217;s response to the claim that she wants to demonize Muslims. Is it hard for Lilith as a white woman to criticize Islam given the political climate?<br>1:14:20 Why Lilith continues to criticize religions?<br>1:15:09 Do people struggle with finding meaning in life after they leave religion? Accepting the harsh realities of life. The different framing of God and Satan in Islam and Christianity.<br>1:22:08 Abdullah article defending Muslims. The accusations of anti-Muslim Bigotry against Abdullah.<br>1:24:16 What is true Islam? Ahmadiyyas&#8217; cherry-picking of the Quran and their mental gymnastics explaining miracles in the Quran.<br>1:26:55 Saving one person equivalent to saving mankind? Plagiarism in the Quran<br>1:32:36 Final remarks.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8226\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-178-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/038-Discussing_Islam_and_Faith_with_Ex-Christian_Lilith.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/038-Discussing_Islam_and_Faith_with_Ex-Christian_Lilith.mp3\">http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/038-Discussing_Islam_and_Faith_with_Ex-Christian_Lilith.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/038-Discussing_Islam_and_Faith_with_Ex-Christian_Lilith.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=178-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/038-Discussing_Islam_and_Faith_with_Ex-Christian_Lilith.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"038-Discussing_Islam_and_Faith_with_Ex-Christian_Lilith.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/list\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am going live with Lilith Liberated to discuss Islam and her story Her Twitter Her YouTube channel YouTube version for this podcast: https:\/\/youtu.be\/JCKjAubdOUE Here are the timestamps for the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":573,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-178","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcasts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/178","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=178"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/178\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":574,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/178\/revisions\/574"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/573"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=178"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=178"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=178"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}