{"id":175,"date":"2020-07-20T09:50:42","date_gmt":"2020-07-20T13:50:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/abdullahsameer.com\/podcast\/?p=175"},"modified":"2021-07-12T18:30:05","modified_gmt":"2021-07-12T22:30:05","slug":"037-blasphemy-apostasy-and-threats-two-abdullahs-call-in-show","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/037-blasphemy-apostasy-and-threats-two-abdullahs-call-in-show\/","title":{"rendered":"037 &#8211;  Blasphemy, Apostasy, and Threats | Two Abdullahs Call-In Show"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Two Abdullahs Call-In Show Episode 4. Discuss Blasphemy, Apostasy and Threats with HARRIS SULTAN<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Slides can be <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/presentation\/d\/1CGdtwFks6SaHbXgLYmiK0LYQDHu8rXHgYZ48F97QKFA\/edit?usp=sharing\">downloaded here<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/abdullahsameer.com\/blog\/the-two-abdullahs-call-in-show\/\">Donate to the show here<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here are the timestamps for the podcast:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0:00 Introductions<br>2:30 Harris Sultan&#8217;s take and experience as an atheist. The two Abdullah&#8217;s experiences of being atheists.<br>16:00 Pakistan&#8217;s blasphemy law (a clip)<br>27:05 Apostasy &#8211; The capital punishment, did Sahaba execute apostates? Justifying capital punishment for blasphemy using this hadith.<br>35:25 Is it possible for Pakistan to evolve given its origins are intrinsically tied to Islam?<br>43:20 Is critiquing the Prophet Muhammad and treating him as an ordinary prophet the best tactic? Variations in the Quran.<br>52:20 Harris Sultan&#8217;s merchandise, using humor and mockery of the prophet to reach a larger audience<br>55:28 Scholarly opinion on apostasy and how it is related to blasphemy(Reliance of the traveler).<br>1:06:40 Need for a humanistic political party<br>1:08:00 Advice for Pakistan atheists, should they come out?<br>1:14:50 Blasphemy- Dead poets.<br>1:15:58 Muhammad killing women because of blasphemy. The murdered concubine.<br>1:22:05 What is the reason for Imran Khan&#8217;s failure to implement progressivism in Pakistan given his exposure to western liberalism?<br>1:27:30 Debating David Wood and other ex-Muslim Christian apologists.<br>1:32:27 Super chats<br>1:35:34 Modern cases of Blasphemy (Salman Taseer and Asia Bibi)<br>1:39:50 A Somali context on blasphemy, apostasy being enforced by vigilantes.<br>1:49:20 Egyptian Humanist Ahmed Harkan and the impact of vigilantes.<br>1:53:00 Pakistan Penal code section 295C on blasphemy<br>1:54:26 Treatment of Islamic scholars and intellectuals for questioning the Quran and the hadiths<br>2:01:30 Islamic scholars on apostasy and blasphemy<br>2:06:45 Amendments of the Pakistan penal code to suppress the Ahmadi Muslims&#8230;<br>2:11:21 Philosophical Muslim apologetics &#8211; Are the prophets important or just Allah?<br>Cherry-picking verses to support a narrative.<br>2:20:30 Hypocrites because of blasphemy laws and the consequences of coming out.<br>2:26:00 Parallels between the mentality of racists and the Ultra orthodoxy Muslims in Pakistan. How the governments are responding.<br>2:31:28 Bill in Punjab mandating reading the Quran and the need for mass education<br>2:39:52 Abdullah Sameer&#8217;s summary of the stream and remarks.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_4629\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-175-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/037-Blasphemy_Apostasy_and_Threats___Two_Abdullahs_Call-In_Show_Episode_4.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/037-Blasphemy_Apostasy_and_Threats___Two_Abdullahs_Call-In_Show_Episode_4.mp3\">http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/037-Blasphemy_Apostasy_and_Threats___Two_Abdullahs_Call-In_Show_Episode_4.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/037-Blasphemy_Apostasy_and_Threats___Two_Abdullahs_Call-In_Show_Episode_4.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=175-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/037-Blasphemy_Apostasy_and_Threats___Two_Abdullahs_Call-In_Show_Episode_4.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"037-Blasphemy_Apostasy_and_Threats___Two_Abdullahs_Call-In_Show_Episode_4.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/list\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two Abdullahs Call-In Show Episode 4. 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