{"id":170,"date":"2020-07-20T09:47:40","date_gmt":"2020-07-20T13:47:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/abdullahsameer.com\/podcast\/?p=170"},"modified":"2021-07-12T18:44:49","modified_gmt":"2021-07-12T22:44:49","slug":"035-a-discussion-with-frank-parmir-of-muslims-for-progressive-values-on-perennial-islam-lgbt-rights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/035-a-discussion-with-frank-parmir-of-muslims-for-progressive-values-on-perennial-islam-lgbt-rights\/","title":{"rendered":"035 &#8211; A Discussion with Frank Parmir of Muslims for Progressive Values on Perennial Islam, LGBT Rights"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I am going to be discussing with my friend Frank Parmir of Muslims for Progressive Values on his attempt to establish an LGBT friendly mosque and how he sees god, the universe, religion, and truth from a perennial perspective.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Follow Frank here on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ColumbusMPV\/\">Facebook<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>YouTube version of this podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/bDxyu5hS26c\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/bDxyu5hS26c<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here are the timestamps for this podcast:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0:00 Introductions<br>1:40 How Frank found Islam and ended up converting to Islam?<br>11:50 The self-actualization of the universe, How Frank ascribes characteristics like intelligence<br>14:00 Revelations. The difference between revelatory thoughts and ordinary thoughts. Ego.<br>19:00 Eastern religions are less egoic. Ego aids in survival but is it still relevant in modern times?<br>29:20 Waiting for God to be good to us. Is he always going to be good for you?<br>32:56 Why should there be pain? Isn&#8217;t that contradictory to the idea of Jannah?<br>36:35 Advising people who are suffering from severe ailments e.g cancer<br>40:10 Is suffering a given or are there ways to escape suffering?<br>44:00 Why Islam? How Frank reconciles his views on ego and reality with the Quran.<br>47:30 How much of Muhammad&#8217;s work was a product of epilepsy? Seizures and how they are related to &#8220;spiritual experiences&#8221;<br>53:50 Frank&#8217;s anecdote of spiritual experience. Experiencing oneness with the universe when the ego is overcome.<br>58:40 Channel announcements<br>59:20 Frank&#8217;s experiences trying to establish an LGBTQ+ friendly mosque in Ohio.<br>1:11:40 Free will and determinism.<br>1:13:40 Frank&#8217;s final remarks (Poem)<br>1:14:25 Frank&#8217;s page on perennials<br>1:14:50 Abdullah&#8217;s final remarks<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_5766\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-170-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/035-A_Discussion_with_Frank_Parmir_of_Muslims_for_Progressive_Values_on_Perennial_Islam_LGBT_Rights.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/035-A_Discussion_with_Frank_Parmir_of_Muslims_for_Progressive_Values_on_Perennial_Islam_LGBT_Rights.mp3\">http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/035-A_Discussion_with_Frank_Parmir_of_Muslims_for_Progressive_Values_on_Perennial_Islam_LGBT_Rights.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/035-A_Discussion_with_Frank_Parmir_of_Muslims_for_Progressive_Values_on_Perennial_Islam_LGBT_Rights.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=170-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/035-A_Discussion_with_Frank_Parmir_of_Muslims_for_Progressive_Values_on_Perennial_Islam_LGBT_Rights.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"035-A_Discussion_with_Frank_Parmir_of_Muslims_for_Progressive_Values_on_Perennial_Islam_LGBT_Rights.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/list\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am going to be discussing with my friend Frank Parmir of Muslims for Progressive Values on his attempt to establish an LGBT friendly mosque and how he sees god, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":582,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-170","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcasts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/170","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=170"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/170\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":583,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/170\/revisions\/583"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/582"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=170"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=170"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=170"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}