{"id":145,"date":"2020-07-20T09:35:54","date_gmt":"2020-07-20T13:35:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/abdullahsameer.com\/podcast\/?p=145"},"modified":"2021-07-13T12:55:42","modified_gmt":"2021-07-13T16:55:42","slug":"025-interview-with-pakistani-exmuslim-christian-stephen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/025-interview-with-pakistani-exmuslim-christian-stephen\/","title":{"rendered":"025 &#8211; Interview with Pakistani Exmuslim Christian Stephen"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>How he left Islam, became Christian, left Pakistan. How he fears for his safety even in China.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>YouTube version of this podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/sdU3xZ9RO3Y\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/sdU3xZ9RO3Y<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Timestamps for the podcast:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0:00 How it all started for Stephen? What convinced him to join Christianity?<br>10:20 The story of Jesus pardoning the adulterous lady &#8211; Was it added later into the bible? Are Hudood punishments still applicable in the modern world?<br>13:30 Stephen&#8217;s conversion to Christianity (continued) &#8211; being cut off financially by his family, being tricked into coming back to Pakistan by his family.<br>20:30 Stephen&#8217;s father&#8217;s attempt to convince Stephen that Islam is true and that he should return to Islam.<br>23:40 How did Stephen&#8217;s mother react to his apostasy?<br>25:10 Stephen&#8217;s experience in Pakistan after he was trapped by his father.<br>30:47 Is Islam problematic or the Imams&#8217; and scholars&#8217; interpretations of Islam problematic? Can we separate Hadiths and Sunnah from Islam?<br>37:02 How did Islam spread in Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, and India? The problem of Jihad &#8211; Would Muslims be peaceful if they become the majority?<br>41:30 Treatment of Christians in Pakistan. The importance of secularism and liberalism. China is also infringing on the people&#8217;s right to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and expression.<br>44:30 Differences between Western Muslims and Pakistan Muslims. How western Muslims treat Islam as an identity.<br>47:50 Stephen&#8217;s escape from Pakistan and his father&#8217;s continued threats.<br>50:30 How is life now for Stephen in China?<br>51:40 Open-minded people are leaving Islam. The cognitive dissonance of educated people who are also religious.<br>54:34 Final remarks.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2258\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-145-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/025-Interview_with_Pakistani_Exmuslim_Christian_Stephen.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/025-Interview_with_Pakistani_Exmuslim_Christian_Stephen.mp3\">http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/025-Interview_with_Pakistani_Exmuslim_Christian_Stephen.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/025-Interview_with_Pakistani_Exmuslim_Christian_Stephen.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/?powerpress_pinw=145-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.abdullahsameer.com\/episodes\/025-Interview_with_Pakistani_Exmuslim_Christian_Stephen.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"025-Interview_with_Pakistani_Exmuslim_Christian_Stephen.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/friendlyexmuslim.com\/podcast\/list\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How he left Islam, became Christian, left Pakistan. 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